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Nick Cage’s National Treasure was fairly enjoyable, I thought.  It kept the violence to a minimum, and any film that pushes the idea that American History is actually interesting (which it is) is OK by me.  In any case, it did well enough to inspire a sequel, and since there’s no reason the second movie couldn’t improve on the first, it’s nice to see early indications of that, such as the hiring of Helen Mirren and the underappreciated Ed Harris to co-star.  Add in the returning Harvey Keitel, and that’s a pretty swank cast.

 

Previously stalled, production on Tim Burton’s Sweeny Todd has resumed.  The film, starring (who else?) Johnny Depp, Helena Bonham-Carter, Alan Rickman and Sacha Baron Cohen, is set for a Christmas release.

 

Rumor has it that they are trying to revive the Mortal Kombat series.  Hopefully Christopher Lambert will be brought back as Rayden.  (I don’t really like Lambert much, but he was terrific in that role.)  Considering what a hash James Remar made of the part, that’s good to know.  On the other hand, and although I harbor a love for the first movie beyond any rational defense I can make for it, the odds of another such movie not sucking are pretty slim.

 

Unsurprisingly, with his film career in the tank, David Duchovny is apparently talking up another X-Files movies.  (See also Harrison Ford and the fourth Indiana Jones picture.)  Look, I liked the show too, but really, does anyone really care anymore?  I’m thinking not, and unless Duchovny and Gillian Anderson are really willing to make this on the cheap, I would be surprised if anyone really bit on this.  Of course, in a world in which hugely budgeted movies based on Transformers and Speed Racer are hitting the screen, who knows?

 

Despite the decent box office and surprising quality of Freddy vs. Jason, New Line apparently isn’t chomping at the bit to make another Freddy Kruger movie.  Robert Englund, like the aforementioned Duchovny and Ford, obviously would like this to change.  For now, though, New Line is focused on a remake / restart of the Friday the 13th franchise.  Even if another Nightmare on Elm Street is made, I don’t see why they wouldn’t restart the series, as they are doing with Halloween and Friday the 13th.  In other words, Englund might be out of it anyway.

 

In further weird remake news, rapper Ice Cube is talking up a remake of Welcome Back, Kotter (!), in which he’d play the teacher who returns home to the run down school he once attended to try to help out a group of learning-adverse students.  Apparently Mr. Cube sees a role for more drama in this version, and I have to say, if you’re going to do such a thing, that’s not a bad take on it.  The White Shadow might be a better project, though.  Although Ice Cube isn’t going to be starring in that.

 

There’s a rumor that Australian actor Russell Crowe is interested in playing Sherlock Holmes (!) in a film that would emphasize Holmes’ less essential but very real physical skills.  I can’t imagine this happening, but if it does, here’s a scene I’d like to see:

Prospective Client, producing Churchwarden pipe:  “Do you mind if I light up my pipe, Mr. Holmes?”
Holmes, producing a large Meerschaum pipe:  “You call that a pipe? This is a pipe!”

 

Scottish 300 star Gerald Butler has been signed to star in a prequel to Escape From New York.  At least it wouldn’t be a straight remake.  Kurt Russell is pissed to see his trademark role go elsewhere, although his stated complaints are on nationalist grounds:  “I do think that character was quintessentially one thing. And that is, American.”  However, he chimed in further when asked if he’d be interested to doing a cameo in the film.  “(Expletive) that! I am Snake Plissken!”

  • Danny

    Another Mortal Kombat?

    It strikes me as odd that movies based on video games rarely come out while said video games are at all popular. I mean, take a look at the Wikipedia page for such things

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_based_on_video_games

    Of the 43 (!) Video-game based games in some level of development, 9 are based on game series that are currently popular: Castlevania, Devil May Cry, Gears of War, God of War, Halo, Metal Gear Solid (Gah!), Prince of Persia, Soul Calibur, and Warcraft.

    Of that bunch, only Halo and Devil May Cry are liable to be good. Halo because the game has exactly the right amount of story to make an action movie out of (Most games – Mortal Kombat among them – have little to no plot and characterization. Others, such Xenosaga, have way too much. Xenosaga, across the trilogy, has over 200 hours (!!!!) of dialog). Devil May Cry because it has all the halmarks of a good exploitation movie, which are making a comeback.

    But more than 75% of game movies are based on currently (or eternally. Cold Fear?!) unpopular games.

    I don’t know. I find that interesting, being a video-game playing movie fan.

    I second the call for “This is a pipe”

  • Food

    As a hard-core fan of Doyle’s Sherlock Holmes stories, I don’t want to see another Holmes movie. With the possible exception of Tarzan (Greystoke was faithful to EGB’s story), there’s no literary character who cinema has mangled more than Holmes and Watson.

  • Ed

    Danny,

    “God of War” (PS2) has enough plot with which to base two movies. It’s one of the few video games I’ve actually taken the time to beat (about six months on “Hard” setting). For anyone even remotely interested in v-games – “God of War” is an absolute classic.

    Given that Hollywood has blown millions on needless remakes of “The Fog,” “The Omen,” “The Amityville Horror,” “Texas Chainsaw Massacre,” and a litany of 70’s TV retro (“Bewitched,” “The Brady Bunch,”) I would venture to say that movies based on video games have at least one thing going for them: originality. But most of these movies, like “Doom” and “Final Fantasy” suffer from exactly what makes them good video games: CGI eye-candy.

    Incidentally, the video game industry makes more money annually than Hollywood.

    Personally, I think you can make a great movie about anything, be it a video game or a comic book, as long as you keep the suspense/conflict absorbing, have great characterization and great cinematography and pacing. A good director and cast can make a movie version of “Robotron” that’s more interesting than most big budget meatball movies.

    As for the Crowe rumor, I think he would make a great Holmes. I know we associate him with physical roles (“GLadiator” “L.A. Confidential”) but he’s a perfect choice for Holmes. His accent was spot-on in “Master and Commander” as was his delivery.

    A Sherlock Holmes movie would be great.

  • Songino

    I liked Mortal Kombat too. It’s a cheesy kung fu-style B-movie, it KNOWS it’s a cheesy kung fu-style B-movie, and it doesn’t try to be anything more than that. Great fun. Heck, I like the movie even though I’ve always hated the game and thought it was a pile of crap. Also, it has a Hollywood martial artist punching a four-armed guy in the crotch. Winners all around.

    I wouldn’t mind another X-Files movie so long as it’s a Monster Of The Week movie. I NEVER liked the alien conspiracy crap in that show. The government conspiracy stuff was way better; going from that as the background plot to Evil Alien Mumbo Jumbo was a massive step down in my book. But I always enjoy the one-shot episodes.

    Also, going back to video game movies, a film based on the first (SNES) Clock Tower game might be good. That game scares the crap outta me.

  • Chris Magyar

    Nitpick: Crowe is a Kiwi.

  • matrixprime

    I don’t know, National Treasure wasn’t too bad but I can’t believe it did well enough to spawn a sequel. I personally thought the first one suffered from something I’ll call ‘Not Far Enough’.

    As in – they had a great idea/concept, and it was a nice turn of the Conspiracy theories surrounding the Illuminati/etc, but they took something that has a relatively thick and ‘meaty’ ‘history’ and sort of skimmed off the top. I would have liked it a TON more if there were a few less stops on the ‘puzzle quest’ and if they’d delved a bit deeper into the concept it came from.

    As for Mortal Kombat, meh. I love the first movie – it did what it set out to do, and did it well. But the second one was so god-awful atrocious, and most ofthe game sequels (as in, everything from the 3rd one to all but the most recent 2) were horrendous….plus the last 2 are good games but more or less are ‘revisions’ of the original series….I really don’t know why they’re even bothering.

    Escape From New York remake….all I can think of is that Hollywood has ran out of main stream movies to gut and redo, so now they’re moving on to the cult and niche genres.

    This is why I largely watch anime these days. It may have its own share of identity theft, but at least its new to me!

  • Danny

    I haven’t gotten around to God of War, though I’ve heard good things.

    I wish there were more (good) movies based off games, certainly. There’s a lot of untapped potential. Suikoden II – my favorite game – could probably be a whole miniseries, though its conservative bent, and the fact that it seems to be an allegory of the Iraq war (Which is coincidence; it came out in 1998. But the Jowston Hill scene is almost word-for-word identical to Colin Powell trying to win over the U.N. It’s freaky) casting the pro-war side as the “good guys”, wouldn’t sit well with much of Hollywood, I think.

    I don’t think much of Hollywood knows anything about gaming, though. I remember reading about how Lara Croft inspired all the “strong” women who followed her, though the article cited as evidence “descendants” of Croft who predated her! The first action game with a female lead predates Tomb Raider by a whole decade.

    Speaking of which, was said game (Metroid, for non-nerds) supposed to be a movie produced by John Woo?

    But we’re seeing more big-name actors in games now. We got Samuel L Jackson as the bad guy for the fifty million dollar Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. Maybe we’ll see more Hollywood types knowing why these games are popular, and not putting Mario in an apocalyptic wasteland.

    Is it true, by the way, that the video game of Chronicles of Riddick outperformed the actual movie? I know it was much better received, and that the acting was generally agreed to be better.

  • The Rev. D.D.

    I’d second God of War as a movie. I recently beat it on Hard Mode and am starting up God Mode. As soon as the sequel drops in price I’m all over it.
    I’m not sure who should play Kratos. Vin Diesel has the look but I don’t know if he could pull off the character. Same for Tyler (Taylor?) Mane, although I think he’d do better. Maybe someone from 300?
    Still, the game comes off like a b-movie, albeit with a rather interesting and complicated plotline. In the right hands it’d be money. Someone who could play up the b-movie aspects but keep it tight and serious (it’s not a lighthearted game by any means.)

  • I would love to see a third Mortal Kombat movie, even if I’ve long given up on the idea of them making it good. Still, I think this movie is dead and buried in development hell. The best hope is that whenever they make the first Mortal Kombat for the current generation of systems that they’ll finally churn something, but I don’t think it’s going to happen.

    Recently I got an email from my sister that said that they were going to shift the focus of the series from Liu Kang to Sub-Zero. I really hope not.

  • The Rev. D.D.

    I don’t know if I’d mind that. I always thought Liu Kang was kind of a boring protagonist (although he was more interesting in the movie), kind of an “Informed Hero” if you will. I was more interested in Kitana’s whole “dysfunctional family from Hell” dynamic. Tyrant dad, zombie mom, evil clone sister…a lot better than “he’s the best fighter humanity has so he’s the hero.” I know that didn’t come up until the second game, but even in the first I was more interested in the Sub-Zero vs. Scorpion story. And not just because Scorpion rocks–I mean, fire-breathing zombie ninjas with cool voices trump just about anything you can come up with, IMHO. Especially when they kick the crap out of Johnny Cage.
    (I still don’t buy Cage beating him, dammit. Even though the movie Cage was, as Mr. Begg pointed out, comic relief done right, and one of the big, and good, surprises of the first film.)
    I’d love to see a movie based on Scorpion’s rise, fall, and resurrection. If they tie that into a focus on Sub-Zero, I’d be game. Just Sub-Zero, though…dunno. He doesn’t have a lot more going for him than Liu Kang, really. “I’m a ninja, and I make ice! I’m great at parties! Except for the whole spinal-yanking thing.” I did like his design in one of the newer games, though, with the ice on his hands and his breath always coming out as visible vapor. That was pretty boss.

  • colagirl

    Suikoden II is my fave Suikoden game and my *second*-favorite game of all time (my favorite is Chrono Trigger). I think it would make an *excellent* film or miniseries IMHO, along with Suikoden V (my runner-up favorite Suikoden game). It’s weird that there are all these movies on games like Tomb Raider (solo adventure game), Doom (first-person shooter), Mortal Kombat (tournament game) whereas RPGs, games that tell a story and one would think would be a natural to transition to movies, aren’t really so much. I mean, there’s the Final Fantasy movie, but what besides that? I can’t really think of anything….

  • Patrick Coyle

    I recall that the Mortal Kombat game series tried an experiment called Mortal Kombat Legends, or something like that – a series of action/adventure games that focused on individual characters in the MK universe. The first one was about Sub-Zero. There never was a second one.

    Hopefully whoever’s doing the MK3 movie will take the hint and realize that there really isn’t much of a story to the Mortal Kombat games, and that the fun was about watching people beat each other up in crazy ways. The first MK movie totally understood this. If MK3 is done like the first, but with more sophisticated fighting, I’d pay to rent that.

    I checked that wikipedia entry in Danny’s first post, and I noticed the “comparison of success” section didn’t mention Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. It seems like a strange omission. Every other movie on that page merely takes the setting and characters and injects plot structure where there wasn’t any before, while Advent Children was based on a game that already had a full-fledged narrative.

  • Patrick Coyle

    Cologirl pretty much hit the nail on the head, there.

    Thinking about that though, it occured to me that the games that would make good movie adaptations have the opposite problem from the usual fare – they have *too much* story to tell, at least within a two-hour running time. More than a few have been made into short TV series or lengthy volumes of comics, but such things are never quite as high-profile as films are.

    Meanwhile, hasn’t X-Files essentially gone through its alotted lifespan? It’s been some time since I’ve heard a word about it even from fans, and I’m not sure if dragging it out and making a big-budget episode and calling it a movie works for anything that isn’t Star Trek (and even then, the fans have their limits).

  • Songino

    I agree with Patrick Coyle’s reasoning–RPGs, while story-laden, are also meaningless side quest-laden. Sure, Final Fantasy games are ostensibly about protecting some crystals or some such thing, but when you really think about it there’s often very little to do with crystals amd a whole lot to do with random crap like Moogle villages and swimming deep sea trenches and such.

    It’s funny, because while Chrono Trigger is sometimes knocked for being too short, when in reality it’s short because it has a lot fewer random subplots, and by fewer I mean still a whole heck of a lot except not as many as other games by comparison. There’s nothing more annoying than fetching a pail of milk so you can trade it for a ladder so you can access the roof of a house to get the gem that fits into the eye of the statue in the cave so it’ll open the passageway to the hidden room that has the special moss that you trade at the marketplace for the bag of rice you give to the hobo who introduces you to his brother who has the scroll that teaches you the move that allows you to break the rock that’s blocking the path to the next town.

    Really, there are a lot of RPGs that, when you raelly get down to it, don’t have much more story than your average fighting or action game.

  • Danny

    Sangino

    Well, you’d be surprised if you actually sat down and quantified it. The fine folks at http://www.videogamerecaps.com/ for instance (which is probably relevant to the interests of any video game fans who are also Jabootu fans, but beware of somewhat saucy language) are hundreds of pages into a recap of just the very first Xenosaga game. Their recap/review of Final Fantasy X is 22 segments, each about twenty-five pages in Word. That’s quite a lot happening, even given the tendency of the recappers towards tangents and the segment that revolved around sidequests.

    And Advent Children knew exactly what its audience wanted: Over the top action scenes and a bit of character resolution. And, for the most part, that’s what they delivered. Hence its relative success, compared to The Spirits Within.

  • Chris Magyar

    There’s nothing more annoying than fetching a pail of milk so you can trade it for a ladder so you can access the roof of a house to get the gem that fits into the eye of the statue in the cave so it’ll open the passageway to the hidden room that has the special moss that you trade at the marketplace for the bag of rice you give to the hobo who introduces you to his brother who has the scroll that teaches you the move that allows you to break the rock that’s blocking the path to the next town.

    This sentence should be in every GM’s/RPG writer’s handbook. Brilliant.

  • Songino

    Danny, the problem with that game recap site is that they’re really overstating all the actions. They’re stretching out all the minor scenes and plot elements and vastly overexplaining everything.

    For example, their Chrono Trigger recap spans 5 linked pages.

    A real recap would be: Boy meets girl. Girl gets zapped by Friend’s machine. Boy goes back in time to save Girl; Friend and Frog assist. Boy gets sent to jail; Friend breaks Boy out and the two along with the Girl run away to the future. An explanation of the future is obtained; Robot is found and fixed, and all gets warped to Weird Place. They learn magic and run off to the present. The Team runs around time to reconstruct The Sword, meeting Cavewoman. The Team raids the Wizard’s castle and win; they go to the past and witness The Evil’s arrival. They go to the not-as-past-but-still-fairly-long-ago and get kicked around; Boy dies. The Gals rip up a ship and steal it for their own; after that a lot of subplots happen and the world is saved.

    That’s it. Those’re the basics. The underlying story — going through time to defeat Lavos — is very sparse, and a series of character moments and side quests fill the time between brief flashes of Genuine Plot.

    And you know what? Most of the time, that’s the way I like it. I think Chrono Trigger is great despite its wafer thin storyline. But the important thing to realize is that just because a game is long and it has a lot of text and reading doesn’t mean the plot is thick and complex. Really, most games are just simple plots strung together by a bunch of Stuff Happening.

    I mean, let’s compare this with what this site does. Ken can take any movie and go on for PAGES describing it in superb and loving detail. But that doesn’t make stuff like Dante’s Peak and Future Kill complex. It just means there’s a lot of fluff to describe.

  • The Rev. D.D.

    Excellent points regarding RPGs. There’s so much story in most of them it’d take a lot of filtering to get a main plot for a film, and even then you run the risk of leaving out some neat stuff.
    I have never really been able to get into the Final Fantasy games. Not so much due to the storylines, but the whole “random fights” thing. After a while I get tired of fighting the same little critters over and over and not being able to do much about it.
    Chrono Trigger’s system of giving you the option of whether or not to fight was a relief, and only added to my enjoyment of the whole thing, along with the storyline, battle system, and characters. Frog rules. He and Ayla should’ve gotten their own sequel. “Frog and Cat(-girl) are Friends(…who kick ass all over time and space.)” And since the game style needs a trio, we’ll stick in Magus as well ’cause he’s pretty cool too.

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    Threshold Entertainment the company resonable for Mortal Kombat movies will reboot the Mortal Kombat
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