Should be a good weekend for Thor…

I didn’t go into it, but I did see Thor last week, and I liked it quite a lot. Most of the criticism I’ve seen revolves around the film being too light or inconsequential. To my mind, that means it was fun. Does the entire universe have to be at stake in every single movie? I don’t think so. It was nice to see a lighthearted superhero movie, and a pretty well done one at that. And presumably Captain America will be at least somewhat darker, as it involves fighting WWII. So run with it.

Thor is already nearing the breakeven point, due to its (by today’s standard) moderate $150 million budget. The worldwide gross should easily surpass $300 million this weekend, which will push the film safely into the black. Considering that the heavy fantasy elements could easily have tanked the film, Marvel must be sighing with relief. Certainly Thor’s warm (if not blazing hot) reception bodes well for Captain America and The Avengers, both of which seem more marketable on their face.

Thor did middling well in the States last weekend (and like most action movies, did rather better overseas), and although big movies generally drop at least 50% by the second weekend now, Thor should be kept from much of a larger collapse by the lack of competition this weekend. The Bridesmaids, which looks to be a distaff The Hangover, could easily do well with female audiences particularly, but it probably doesn’t pose a huge threat to Thor, even as counterprogramming. Even less dangerous is the awful looking Priest, another tiresome guy fights CGI vampires movie. The 15% positive rating at Rottentomatoes suggests more a Paste Pot Pete-level threat than a Wrecking Crew-sized one.

  • Reed

    Paste Pot Pete gets no respect. :( Oddly enough, when I was a kid reading comics I thought the concept (if not the actuallity) of the Trapster (formerly Paste Pot Pete) was pretty scary, because being glued to death would suck. One of the worst names Stan ever came up with, though.

    Thor is, of course, a horrible story if for some beknighted reason you were looking for a story about Norse mythology as one of our local critics was. He seemed disappointed that Branaugh hadn’t made Thor into a pseudo-Shakespear type of thing. As an adaptation of the Marvel character I thought it was just about spot on. They mixed in some unnecessary new elements such as the New Mexico location (although I believe in the comics Asgard resettled in Oklahoma, could be wrong), and made nods to parts of Marvel Thor that I’m glad to see gone (Dr. Blake), and included plenty of geek moments for those that could catch them. Unless I missed it they never even referred to the Casket of Winters by name, it was just there for us Marvel geeks to recognize. I loved Chris Whatshisname as Thor; in my opinion he brought just the right touch of playfulness mixed with his arrogance. I thought the Destroyer was very well done, and for some reason the sound effect for its disintegrator beam struck just the right note with me. I loved the cameo from Hawkeye.

    I’m glad that they are including Hawkeye in the Avengers movie, although it means that he will probably be intended as the audience identification figure insted of Captain America. Also, I’m afraid that Hawkeye will give the film makers a chance to indulge in my least favorite modern trope by including what they feel are lovable scamps, but instead come off to me as insufferable assholes. This tendancy totally ruined the last Star Trek movie for me with the portrayal of James Kirk. I kept thinking, why do they keep giving this schmuck another chance? They should have court martialled him in the second reel.

    I wasn’t even paying attention to the X-Men First Class movie until now, but I liked the preview and now intend to see it.

    Now, please let Captain America be good. The preview made it look like they’ll be spending way too much time on the origin of the character.

    I don’t keep up with the Marvel movie news any more. Do they still intend to do a Black Panther movie? Do they have anything else announced beyond the Thor/Cap/Avengers sequels?

  • I imagine for a while they’ll be busy with making the Avengers and working on Thor and Iron Man and Cap sequels. Many other films are being mulled; probably the farthest along is the Ant Man movie that Edgar Wright was been working on for a while. However, since Marvel is making these films themselves, a conservative strategy makes sense. They can afford the inevitable bomb when it comes (as they absorbed the not particularly profitable / slight money loser Incredible Hulk movie), but not a string of them, so I imagine they’ll stick with safe projects after the grand Avengers strategy concludes. Then they’ll undoubtedly do sequels (I wonder how much an Avengers movie would have to make before they decide to try to round all the actors back up for another one), and probably start mixing in the occasional new hero. Several characters have been bandied about, aside from Ant-Man, including Black Panter, Luke Cage, Dr. Strange, Etc. A Nick Fury / SHIELD movie is also a possibility. Then they could also start looking at TV shows, or an animated movie, either from PIXAR or Marvel’s corporate owner Disney.

  • Guy

    I can’t wait to see Thor (although I am pretty much waiting for it).

    Regarding the Kirk characgter in the latest movie, couldn’t agree more. Having a famous dad and the backing of a Starship captain will onl get ou so far.

  • monoceros4

    “This tendancy totally ruined the last Star Trek movie for me with the portrayal of James Kirk. I kept thinking, why do they keep giving this schmuck another chance? They should have court martialled him in the second reel.”

    Someone says the obvious thing. The new Trek movie already felt enough like a bunch of kids getting themselves up in Mommy’s and Daddy’s uniforms to play-act at being starship pilots. But then it had to use Destiny as an excuse for why baby Kirk should basically get promoted straight from disgraced cadet all the way to captain with hardly any questions asked.

    I know that the movie didn’t have a true plot per se; really it was just trying to get all the main characters together by hook or crook and ready for the next movie; hence, for example, Kirk just happening to stumble across Scotty. But would it have killed the writers to make these people seem like actual professionals who deserved to be in the positions that the script was cramming them into?

  • Rock Baker

    While I won’t take away from that point, which is valid, it seems only fair to note that Kirk has always been known for skirting around Starfleet rules whenever the whim strikes him. He’s used to getting his way, and will find a way to have his way. I’m not saying the last movie really captured Kirk as I know him, because they didn’t, but I can see where they were coming from. The way Kirk manipulates his surroundings to please himself, he’d be the classic villian were it not for his dedication to preservation of life and defence of the weak. He’s like 007 in many ways. Almost a jerk, but a hero in the end because he fights for the greater good.

  • tim

    the incredible hulk didn’t lose money. worldwide gross was $263 million. dvd sales 58 million. that’s also not including merchandising sales, cable broadcast, overseas broadcast, and undoubtedly more things.

  • Grumpy

    The problem with Paste-Pot Pete is that he could’ve made more money selling his adhesive formula than he did using it for crime.

    “Thor is, of course, a horrible story if for some beknighted reason you were looking for a story about Norse mythology…”

    Anyone who knows about the mythology but NOT the comics would be screaming at the screen. As I know a little about both, I could tolerate such deviations as: Thor’s blond hair, not being married to Sif, being Loki’s brother instead of his nephew, the space-god thing. Other deviations still bugged me: Odin losing an eye in battle instead of sacrificing it for wisdom; Thor being forbidden from (and later deciding against) killing Jotuns. That said, there are some areas where the movie surpasses the comics: the concept of Bifrost as a wormhole; Heimdall’s eagle eyes; and remembering that Loki was, after all, an Asgardian in good standing and not a mustache-twirling villain (until the prank that killed Balder). Indeed, most of the positive criticism I’ve seen centers on the surprising depth of Loki’s motivation.