Monster of the Day #1561

Kirby was great! I love his work. He co created my favorite comic book character and a lot of others.

I’m thinking Ken’s Kirby opinion was meant ironically. For me, Jack Kirby is (points at ceiling) right up there as the best comic book artist of all time. Everyone else (points about four feet lower) starts here, with your Neil Adams and your Gene Colans and so forth.

Atlas Kirby was adequate. Early Marvel Kirby was excellent. DC Kirby and later Marvel Kirby wasn’t that great. Hurts my eyes just to look at it.

Gimme Sal Buscema over Kirby any day. Buscema was great. Though all his characters tended to look ticked off…

(I also sort of lean Ditko and Romita Sr. over Kirby, too. But that’s the Spider-man fan boy in me.)

Since the yeti folk tale was really probably about bears it makes sense they were brown. I think most of the big foot type stories are really about bears. When the folks tried to explain this horrible creature to the Westerners, the westerners assumed they were talking about some new creature, not something they were familiar with.

I also believe that all “wee folk” type legends were about monkeys. As people moved away from places that had monkeys the stories stayed, but over time no one knew what creature they were talking about.

I have some old issues where they ranted about such things, so it’s not like it was unknown back then, Though it seems to me that they were able to make them a lot shorter and remembered that their first job as to entertain.

They sold a lot better then, too. Sure, part of it is more competition for an entertainment dollar, but alienating a potential 50% of your audience for virtue-signalling can’t be helping, either.

Probably more balanced in their lecturing in the old days.

i wonder if anyone will ever find that movie camera ?

You… you say that like the Easter Bunny isn’t real. (8^0

(If I might break character a second, God i love Emoji.)

There are many stories of “wild men” in the US from the Seventeenth, Eighteenth and Nineteenth centuries. Most likely about escaped chimpanzees and such. They were generally described as being manlike, but small, hairy and smelly.

I know. I like both her and her husband as written characters. I’m just not crazy about how Kirby drew them, or his later Marvel Captain America. Something about his lines seem too heavy handed, especially when compared to his Fantastic Four stuff.

Probably they would say that their lesser amounts of money is made in a more ideologically purified fashion today.

OK, Kirby was clearly, at or near his peak, the greatest or certainly most iconic artist in comic book history. That said, the people who feel like Stan Lee tried to hog all the credit from Kirby (and others), and who have responded by trying instead to give Kirby ALL of the credit and Lee none of it, are equally misguided. Kirby’s later solo work has its fans, but for most of it, it ain’t nearly as good. Some of it, in fact, is quite bad. (There are exceptions, admittedly.)

Lee and Kirby (and Ditko) had a Lennon/McCartney or Brooks/Wilder thing going, where none of the solo work reached the heights of the collaborations. That’s my two cents, anyway.

Yes, unconstrained Super Crazy Kirby was nowhere near his best.

Sort of wonder what changed his style. Was it that he started inking his own stuff, too? Whatever the case, he seemed to have lost that certain something he had had at Marvel. Nowhere near a bad artists, especially compared some of the “pros” today.